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		<title>By: Wendy Helgeson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Helgeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 21:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your view points as directors and staff of non-profits.  I&#039;m speaking from a donor perspective.  If I am disappointed in how I was asked to give, and if there are &quot;rules that were changing&quot; it makes be suspect of giving through this 3rd party.  If the intent of Givemn.org is to support and help service agencies flourish - why are they so quick to blame them - saying it was &quot;the nonprofit&#039;s fault for not relaying the message correctly&quot;.

I was excited to give, and did so at a time when I thought my gift would be maximized, and it wasn&#039;t.  Everyone can say November 17 was a huge success - but in 2010 if others like me have less to give because of this campaign - you may not be so excited about one &quot;give to the max&quot; day in 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your view points as directors and staff of non-profits.  I&#8217;m speaking from a donor perspective.  If I am disappointed in how I was asked to give, and if there are &#8220;rules that were changing&#8221; it makes be suspect of giving through this 3rd party.  If the intent of Givemn.org is to support and help service agencies flourish &#8211; why are they so quick to blame them &#8211; saying it was &#8220;the nonprofit&#8217;s fault for not relaying the message correctly&#8221;.</p>
<p>I was excited to give, and did so at a time when I thought my gift would be maximized, and it wasn&#8217;t.  Everyone can say November 17 was a huge success &#8211; but in 2010 if others like me have less to give because of this campaign &#8211; you may not be so excited about one &#8220;give to the max&#8221; day in 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Pulkrabek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Pulkrabek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I applaud givemn.org for generating so much buzz around Give to the Max day.  I work for a small organization (I am the only staff person).  Givemn.org was very good about relaying how the match changed.  I received daily emails leading up to Nov 17th with links to a tool kit of how to promote and what language to use.  It is unfortunate that such a sincere effort has a black cloud over it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud givemn.org for generating so much buzz around Give to the Max day.  I work for a small organization (I am the only staff person).  Givemn.org was very good about relaying how the match changed.  I received daily emails leading up to Nov 17th with links to a tool kit of how to promote and what language to use.  It is unfortunate that such a sincere effort has a black cloud over it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael McMillan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael McMillan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure I would go as far as to say misrepresented, maybe overly creative marketing. Like many organizations they wanted something to draw attention and it certainly did that. And it appears that as you navigated through the contribution process you were informed the match was not 1 for 1, so if that information altered your willingness to contribute you could back out. That said it does seem like a alot of hype for an about 4% increment, it makes you wonder if the match and the associated cost of the progam to distribute it could have been distributed more effectively yielding the charities more. 

Personally the quesiton I would ask is does marketing like this have along term negative impact on charties and peoples willingness to contrinute. The answer will be determined if they run the program again and what the results are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure I would go as far as to say misrepresented, maybe overly creative marketing. Like many organizations they wanted something to draw attention and it certainly did that. And it appears that as you navigated through the contribution process you were informed the match was not 1 for 1, so if that information altered your willingness to contribute you could back out. That said it does seem like a alot of hype for an about 4% increment, it makes you wonder if the match and the associated cost of the progam to distribute it could have been distributed more effectively yielding the charities more. </p>
<p>Personally the quesiton I would ask is does marketing like this have along term negative impact on charties and peoples willingness to contrinute. The answer will be determined if they run the program again and what the results are.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Urban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Urban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations Wendy on being interviewed by MPR regarding www.givemn.org and Give to the Max day.  If you didn&#039;t hear the segment, you can read the transcript at http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/11/19/givemn/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations Wendy on being interviewed by MPR regarding <a href="http://www.givemn.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.givemn.org</a> and Give to the Max day.  If you didn&#8217;t hear the segment, you can read the transcript at <a href="http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/11/19/givemn/" rel="nofollow">http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2009/11/19/givemn/</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t like the whole matching thing much at all.  Effective marketing?  Absolutely.  Honest and transparent?  I&#039;m not sure. 

I mean, is that mysterious donor really going to withhold their donation if the target amount isn&#039;t met?  I struggle to believe that.  

Big Donor:  &quot;We&#039;d like to donate 50k this year.  Is there any special way you&#039;d like to handle it?&quot;
Non Profit:  &quot;Let&#039;s make your donation a match.  Is that OK if we hold off on disclosing your donation right away?&quot;
Big Donor:  &quot;No prob.  The check should reach you tomorrow.  Good luck!&quot;

I like inflicting urgency, no doubt.  It&#039;s false senses of urgency that bother me. 

If anyone has insights as to how matches typically work, I&#039;d love to hear. 

No processing fees?  Now that I applaud.  That&#039;s good stuff.

Interesting post, and good questions about something NP marketers need to analyze more (I&#039;m not one).  Donator&#039;s remorse has got to be one of the most annoying types of remorse to have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like the whole matching thing much at all.  Effective marketing?  Absolutely.  Honest and transparent?  I&#8217;m not sure. </p>
<p>I mean, is that mysterious donor really going to withhold their donation if the target amount isn&#8217;t met?  I struggle to believe that.  </p>
<p>Big Donor:  &#8220;We&#8217;d like to donate 50k this year.  Is there any special way you&#8217;d like to handle it?&#8221;<br />
Non Profit:  &#8220;Let&#8217;s make your donation a match.  Is that OK if we hold off on disclosing your donation right away?&#8221;<br />
Big Donor:  &#8220;No prob.  The check should reach you tomorrow.  Good luck!&#8221;</p>
<p>I like inflicting urgency, no doubt.  It&#8217;s false senses of urgency that bother me. </p>
<p>If anyone has insights as to how matches typically work, I&#8217;d love to hear. </p>
<p>No processing fees?  Now that I applaud.  That&#8217;s good stuff.</p>
<p>Interesting post, and good questions about something NP marketers need to analyze more (I&#8217;m not one).  Donator&#8217;s remorse has got to be one of the most annoying types of remorse to have.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Warner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Warner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Courage Center participated in Give to the Max Day.  As part of the promotion team, I can say that GiveMN.org learned about technical snafus that happened in other places that had tried the 1:1 match.  In those places, donors rushed to get a donation in early to have your match counted, which overloaded servers and crashed the system.  So, taking those learnings, GiveMN.org changed and let us know about a week before that the matching message should change (and gave us suggested phrasing). So, yes, not as exciting as a 1:1 match was, but good that served didn&#039;t crash.

For us, it was a win. I had the pleasure of getting the email notifications as each donation was made and it was a real rush as the day went on and the donations added up.  Tuesday was a very good day for us and for many non-profits.  Courage Center raised more than $70,000 in 24 hours, with more coming as the shared funds are divided.  Plus, no processing fees adds up.  I&#039;m a board member of VSA arts of MN, a much smaller non-profit, and with limited advance notice, they cleared more than $1,300.  For a small non-profit, that&#039;s a real gift.

I&#039;m glad GiveMN.org paid attention to what happened in other places, learned, and could change in midstream which resulted in a great boon to Minnesota non-profits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Courage Center participated in Give to the Max Day.  As part of the promotion team, I can say that GiveMN.org learned about technical snafus that happened in other places that had tried the 1:1 match.  In those places, donors rushed to get a donation in early to have your match counted, which overloaded servers and crashed the system.  So, taking those learnings, GiveMN.org changed and let us know about a week before that the matching message should change (and gave us suggested phrasing). So, yes, not as exciting as a 1:1 match was, but good that served didn&#8217;t crash.</p>
<p>For us, it was a win. I had the pleasure of getting the email notifications as each donation was made and it was a real rush as the day went on and the donations added up.  Tuesday was a very good day for us and for many non-profits.  Courage Center raised more than $70,000 in 24 hours, with more coming as the shared funds are divided.  Plus, no processing fees adds up.  I&#8217;m a board member of VSA arts of MN, a much smaller non-profit, and with limited advance notice, they cleared more than $1,300.  For a small non-profit, that&#8217;s a real gift.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad GiveMN.org paid attention to what happened in other places, learned, and could change in midstream which resulted in a great boon to Minnesota non-profits.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Watters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen Watters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another piece that I think bears looking at is the equity of the bonus dollars provided to organizations who had the most donors through the GiveMN effort.  If the goal of GiveMN is to open up the nonprofit marketplace to donors, why not structure the bonus in tiers and reward smaller organizations who, for example, attracted the most new donors.  Or bonus organizations of different sizes or in different sectors, e.g. arts, human services, etc.  To me, the way it was done rewarded organizations who for the most part already have large donor bases that they can mobilize via email.  To really expand giving to non-donors would honor the goal of increasing giving, rather than just making it easier to give.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another piece that I think bears looking at is the equity of the bonus dollars provided to organizations who had the most donors through the GiveMN effort.  If the goal of GiveMN is to open up the nonprofit marketplace to donors, why not structure the bonus in tiers and reward smaller organizations who, for example, attracted the most new donors.  Or bonus organizations of different sizes or in different sectors, e.g. arts, human services, etc.  To me, the way it was done rewarded organizations who for the most part already have large donor bases that they can mobilize via email.  To really expand giving to non-donors would honor the goal of increasing giving, rather than just making it easier to give.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Helgeson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wendy Helgeson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope I was clear, that I am thrilled about the money raised for our community.  Most givemn.org supporters continue to state &quot;the nonprofits&quot; should have done a better job with their message.  What is puzzling is that it wasn&#039;t just the &quot;small&quot; organizations that &quot;got it wrong&quot;.  I received a few &quot;asks&quot; from large, sophisticated fund raising groups that also used the phrase &quot;dollar for dollar&quot;.   If Givemn.org was created to assist and help our service organizations flourish - why would they dismiss those emails as an &quot;error on the organization&#039;s end&quot;.  I have heard that the rules of this campaign changed frequently which would definitely cause confusion.  

I had a great conversation with Jennifer Reedy from the Saint Paul Foundation yesterday (one of the grant providers covering the $500,000 match).  She tracked me down after seeing my post and offered to walk me through the plans and their process of the campaign.  She mentioned that they had a &quot;SWAT team&quot; in place to monitor any incorrect messages.  If you are anticipating mixed messages and confusion - could it be that you knew the use of  the word &quot;matching&quot; might not have been the most transparent term to use?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope I was clear, that I am thrilled about the money raised for our community.  Most givemn.org supporters continue to state &#8220;the nonprofits&#8221; should have done a better job with their message.  What is puzzling is that it wasn&#8217;t just the &#8220;small&#8221; organizations that &#8220;got it wrong&#8221;.  I received a few &#8220;asks&#8221; from large, sophisticated fund raising groups that also used the phrase &#8220;dollar for dollar&#8221;.   If Givemn.org was created to assist and help our service organizations flourish &#8211; why would they dismiss those emails as an &#8220;error on the organization&#8217;s end&#8221;.  I have heard that the rules of this campaign changed frequently which would definitely cause confusion.  </p>
<p>I had a great conversation with Jennifer Reedy from the Saint Paul Foundation yesterday (one of the grant providers covering the $500,000 match).  She tracked me down after seeing my post and offered to walk me through the plans and their process of the campaign.  She mentioned that they had a &#8220;SWAT team&#8221; in place to monitor any incorrect messages.  If you are anticipating mixed messages and confusion &#8211; could it be that you knew the use of  the word &#8220;matching&#8221; might not have been the most transparent term to use?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Huebsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Huebsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very impressed with what GiveMN was able to acomplish on Tuesday.  In their wildest dreams I am sure no one even drempt that they would be able to raise over $13 million.  That is an outstanding impact for the community.  Sure, I am disappointed that my donation wasn&#039;t able to be fully matched but I realized it was a limited pool of match funds going into the event.  I believe the GiveMN site did everything in their control to spell that out on their site.  The promotional execution of Give to the Max day was outstanding as I received emails from at least a dozen organizations.  I do agree with Wendy and some of the other posts that some of those individual non-profits didn&#039;t do as good of a job as they should have to explain the matching fund pool.

Overall GiveMN is a great success.  It raised more in one day and through a completely new medium then I ever recall happening in the past.  The best piece of the site is that it made me aware of other organizations and causes I wasn&#039;t familar with prior to visiting the site.  I ended up making contributions to organizations I never would have known about or considered in the past and ultimatly ended up giving more than I planned going into the day.  This is exactly what the site was constructed to facilitate!  A great congratulations to the GiveMN team and I look forward to next year&#039;s Give to the Max day!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very impressed with what GiveMN was able to acomplish on Tuesday.  In their wildest dreams I am sure no one even drempt that they would be able to raise over $13 million.  That is an outstanding impact for the community.  Sure, I am disappointed that my donation wasn&#8217;t able to be fully matched but I realized it was a limited pool of match funds going into the event.  I believe the GiveMN site did everything in their control to spell that out on their site.  The promotional execution of Give to the Max day was outstanding as I received emails from at least a dozen organizations.  I do agree with Wendy and some of the other posts that some of those individual non-profits didn&#8217;t do as good of a job as they should have to explain the matching fund pool.</p>
<p>Overall GiveMN is a great success.  It raised more in one day and through a completely new medium then I ever recall happening in the past.  The best piece of the site is that it made me aware of other organizations and causes I wasn&#8217;t familar with prior to visiting the site.  I ended up making contributions to organizations I never would have known about or considered in the past and ultimatly ended up giving more than I planned going into the day.  This is exactly what the site was constructed to facilitate!  A great congratulations to the GiveMN team and I look forward to next year&#8217;s Give to the Max day!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gave quite a bit on Give to the Max Day.  I didn&#039;t think that GiveMN.org misrepresented to donors the way the match worked.  It seemed clear to me that it would be a share of $500,000 divided based on donations up to $2,500.  The site did use examples of $500,000 ($1/$1 match) and $2,000,000 ($0.25/$1 match) in their FAQ, but I give them the benefit of the doubt that they truly did not expect $14,000,000 to be donated.  

On the other hand, the e-mails that I received from individual charities often quoted either a $1/$1 match or a $0.50/$1 match without any disclaimers.  These e-mails were factually inaccurate, but the GiveMN.org seemed clear to me.

I&#039;m not sure if GiveMN.org gave correct info to the non-profits or if the people at the non-profits just didn&#039;t understand the details.

I ended up with mixed feelings because I was hoping that my donations would be matched more, but I&#039;m happy that Twin Cities non-profits raised $14,000,000 in one day.  (Honestly, I don&#039;t know how that compares to a typical day for all Twin Cities non-profits, though.  It may not be anything special.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gave quite a bit on Give to the Max Day.  I didn&#8217;t think that GiveMN.org misrepresented to donors the way the match worked.  It seemed clear to me that it would be a share of $500,000 divided based on donations up to $2,500.  The site did use examples of $500,000 ($1/$1 match) and $2,000,000 ($0.25/$1 match) in their FAQ, but I give them the benefit of the doubt that they truly did not expect $14,000,000 to be donated.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, the e-mails that I received from individual charities often quoted either a $1/$1 match or a $0.50/$1 match without any disclaimers.  These e-mails were factually inaccurate, but the GiveMN.org seemed clear to me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure if GiveMN.org gave correct info to the non-profits or if the people at the non-profits just didn&#8217;t understand the details.</p>
<p>I ended up with mixed feelings because I was hoping that my donations would be matched more, but I&#8217;m happy that Twin Cities non-profits raised $14,000,000 in one day.  (Honestly, I don&#8217;t know how that compares to a typical day for all Twin Cities non-profits, though.  It may not be anything special.)</p>
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